And yet it is not over, pretty pathetic from nato

I don’t understand your comment. Makes no sense dude. If nato is not there than how are they pathic?

NATO is there thats why its 10 years now. and the war started 2014

NATO 100% have advisors and other contractors active in Ukraine.

Ok let’s think about this in reality terms though. If nato  has any solders active in Ukraine fighting against Russians. Wouldn’t Putin have already attacked a NATO country like he’s been threatening too if there were solders fighting against him?

Turn on your brains for a second, or do i need to bring it to you on a silver platter and explain since you have less intelligence than average joe?
I will assume that you are a dumbass and tell you.
1. How are you going to prove and differentiate if the soldiers/istructors are active soldiers and not volunteering mercs?
2. Sending some instructors, advisors technicians is not enough of a red line, some of the retard nato tactics are worthless and outdated anyway evdienced by the pathetic counteroffensive where nato trained Ukros and equipmment got massacred.
And there are obviously more reasons, you are a dipshit indeed

Wow very sensitive and angry when I’m just trying to have a civil conversation. 1. Any “NATO” solders fighting would be mercs like you said and went on their own choice. Not by NATO orders. 2. Ukrainians were sent to other countries to be trained on NATO equipment and tactics, but they came back to Ukraine and modified what they learned to suit their needs and preferences. 3 and again anyone in there fighting or even instructing and training went on their own free will. Not because of NATO. only reason NATO is in Ukraine is for dropping off or picking up supplies. And most of the time that’s done in a bordering country. But judging by your derogatory nature, you must dislike nato and the “west” and are on the Russian side. Just because I disagree with you doesn’t make me brain dead or a dip shit. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and you don’t have to be a douche bag when someone questions you.